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#1
MUGOO Meetings / 2025-11-24 MUGOO Zoom iMeetin...
Last post by AdminMan - November 11, 2025, 12:09:21 PMWe still cannot have in-person meetings at the library. So we will use Zoom.
Date: Monday November 24, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89566231130?pwd=XsqTSMeK7I3xhtPFHmCrFUj8SCUWeQ.1
Meeting ID: 895 6623 1130
Passcode: 524282
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 - Our experiences with MacOS 26 Tahoe and iOS 26 - Group Discussion 7:40 - 8:20
3 - What's happening with Artificial Intelligence - Group Discussion 8:20 - 9:00
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en
Date: Monday November 24, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89566231130?pwd=XsqTSMeK7I3xhtPFHmCrFUj8SCUWeQ.1
Meeting ID: 895 6623 1130
Passcode: 524282
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 - Our experiences with MacOS 26 Tahoe and iOS 26 - Group Discussion 7:40 - 8:20
3 - What's happening with Artificial Intelligence - Group Discussion 8:20 - 9:00
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en
#2
MUGOO Meetings / Re: 2025-10-27 MUGOO Zoom iMee...
Last post by DavidR - October 28, 2025, 02:39:25 PM0 - Group chin-wag during log on
Charles shared his experience with a knee operation that became infected, highlighting the importance of prompt medical attention and the need for pre-operative physiotherapy. He recommended having physio three or months ahead of time to get as much mobility as possible before any such procedure.
Laurence provided an update on his move to Galiano Island, discussing challenges with building plans and what he has been doing for internet connectivity. Their five month cabin rental is being extended for another five months.
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals
The group briefly discussed personal technology upgrades, with Charles being the only participant who made a recent notable purchase, an iPhone 17. He also mentioned upgrading his home internet setup, which has significantly improved performance.
2 - OpenAI Sora and Tilly Norwood ... What's Now Happening with AI Video - with David Rhynas
David gave an overview presentation on Sora, OpenAI's video generation tool that creates photorealistic video content from text descriptions. He demonstrated Sora's capabilities, including its ability to create continuous 3D video sequences with natural camera motion and lighting changes. He discussed the technical aspects of how Sora works, including its use of diffusion modeling and transformer-based architectures, and showed examples of its video creations. He also mentioned that ChatGPT Pro users can access a higher resolution version of Sora 2 as part of their subscription.
David then moved to ethical concerns surrounding AI-generated content, including potential misuse and deep fakes, as well as OpenAI's safety measures like watermarking and restrictions on generating human faces.
He also introduced Tilly Norwood, an AI-generated actress created by Elaine van der Welden's company Particle 6, sparking debate about the future of human performance in media. He noted concerns from the acting community about AI replacing human performers, as well as questions about digital authenticity and transparency. David concluded by showcasing a demonstration video featuring AI actors, suggesting that such technology is a harbinger of future developments in the entertainment industry.
You can view David's presentation deck, commentary and links to videos at https://mugoo.com/bigfiles/2025-10-27_Sora_&_Tilly_Norwood.pdf
Graham observed that in some cases, the video voice and mouth motions didn't seem to be quite synchronized. David suggested that the shared screen Zoom intermediary might have some impact and you should view the videos directly.
As a retired orthodontist, Wally indicated that he would go back and closely check Tilly's teeth. "Perfect" teeth are unnatural; the goal is "perfectly imperfect."
In the group discussion that followed there was genuine concern as to how are we going to discern what's real and what's not real? Will people even want to tell the difference?
Graham observed that product photography has gone out the window. AI can make perfect renditions in minutes. He also raised concerns about the lack of controls on the internet compared to traditional media, while the group agreed on the broader need to educate young people and their parents about digital media.
3 - archive.org - source of MacOS installers and much more - with Wally Kuzmicz
Wally shared his experience using the Internet Archive https://archive.org/ to download old macOS operating systems and access historical website archives. Apple only makes available the prior two or three prior OS releases, so this is an invaluable resource for maintaining older equiment and apps. He demonstrated how to find and download content from the archive, including CBS Radio Mystery Theater episodes and movie scripts, and how to access archived versions of no longer existing websites.
The meeting wrapped up just after 9:00 pm so participants could cheer on the Blue Jays in game 3 of the World Series.
Charles shared his experience with a knee operation that became infected, highlighting the importance of prompt medical attention and the need for pre-operative physiotherapy. He recommended having physio three or months ahead of time to get as much mobility as possible before any such procedure.
Laurence provided an update on his move to Galiano Island, discussing challenges with building plans and what he has been doing for internet connectivity. Their five month cabin rental is being extended for another five months.
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals
The group briefly discussed personal technology upgrades, with Charles being the only participant who made a recent notable purchase, an iPhone 17. He also mentioned upgrading his home internet setup, which has significantly improved performance.
2 - OpenAI Sora and Tilly Norwood ... What's Now Happening with AI Video - with David Rhynas
David gave an overview presentation on Sora, OpenAI's video generation tool that creates photorealistic video content from text descriptions. He demonstrated Sora's capabilities, including its ability to create continuous 3D video sequences with natural camera motion and lighting changes. He discussed the technical aspects of how Sora works, including its use of diffusion modeling and transformer-based architectures, and showed examples of its video creations. He also mentioned that ChatGPT Pro users can access a higher resolution version of Sora 2 as part of their subscription.
David then moved to ethical concerns surrounding AI-generated content, including potential misuse and deep fakes, as well as OpenAI's safety measures like watermarking and restrictions on generating human faces.
He also introduced Tilly Norwood, an AI-generated actress created by Elaine van der Welden's company Particle 6, sparking debate about the future of human performance in media. He noted concerns from the acting community about AI replacing human performers, as well as questions about digital authenticity and transparency. David concluded by showcasing a demonstration video featuring AI actors, suggesting that such technology is a harbinger of future developments in the entertainment industry.
You can view David's presentation deck, commentary and links to videos at https://mugoo.com/bigfiles/2025-10-27_Sora_&_Tilly_Norwood.pdf
Graham observed that in some cases, the video voice and mouth motions didn't seem to be quite synchronized. David suggested that the shared screen Zoom intermediary might have some impact and you should view the videos directly.
As a retired orthodontist, Wally indicated that he would go back and closely check Tilly's teeth. "Perfect" teeth are unnatural; the goal is "perfectly imperfect."
In the group discussion that followed there was genuine concern as to how are we going to discern what's real and what's not real? Will people even want to tell the difference?
Graham observed that product photography has gone out the window. AI can make perfect renditions in minutes. He also raised concerns about the lack of controls on the internet compared to traditional media, while the group agreed on the broader need to educate young people and their parents about digital media.
3 - archive.org - source of MacOS installers and much more - with Wally Kuzmicz
Wally shared his experience using the Internet Archive https://archive.org/ to download old macOS operating systems and access historical website archives. Apple only makes available the prior two or three prior OS releases, so this is an invaluable resource for maintaining older equiment and apps. He demonstrated how to find and download content from the archive, including CBS Radio Mystery Theater episodes and movie scripts, and how to access archived versions of no longer existing websites.
The meeting wrapped up just after 9:00 pm so participants could cheer on the Blue Jays in game 3 of the World Series.
#3
MUGOO Meetings / 2025-10-27 MUGOO Zoom iMeeting
Last post by AdminMan - September 26, 2025, 09:18:43 PMWe still cannot have in-person meetings at the library. So we will use Zoom.
Date: Monday October 27, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/expired
Meeting ID: expired
Passcode: expired
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 - OpenAI Sora and Tilly Norwood ...
What's Now Happening with AI Video with David Rhynas 7:40 - 8:30
3 - archive.org - source of MacOS installers
and much more time permitting - with Wally Kuzmicz 8:30 - 9:00
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en
Date: Monday October 27, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/expired
Meeting ID: expired
Passcode: expired
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 - OpenAI Sora and Tilly Norwood ...
What's Now Happening with AI Video with David Rhynas 7:40 - 8:30
3 - archive.org - source of MacOS installers
and much more time permitting - with Wally Kuzmicz 8:30 - 9:00
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en
#4
MUGOO Meetings / Re: 2025-09-22 MUGOO iMeeting ...
Last post by DavidR - September 23, 2025, 02:01:35 PM0 - Group chin-wag during log on
Charles discussed his recent cataract surgery and the need for specialized glasses, while also showing us and sharing details about his Bengal cat, which is a rare, hypoallergenic breed. Keith joined the call briefly, mentioning he was walking home for dinner ... our first mobile participant!
John described he and his wife's upcoming expedition cruise to Antarctica with Viking including the health screening requirements, and plans for a future cruise in the Northwest Passage. The conversation ended with a brief discussion about upgrading to an iPhone 17 Pro with better camera capabilities, particularly for his trip to Antarctica.
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals
LeRoy shared his recent experience upgrading to the new iPhone 17 Pro Max https://www.apple.com/ca/iphone-17-pro/. He made the purchase while lying in bed at 8 am and picked it up the next day. He highlighted some of the improved features like a larger screen, better camera with 8x optical zoom, and the transition to eSIM-only technology. While the direct old to new phone transfer did not work, it was quite straight forward transferring data using his iCloud backup. There is a fairly easy process to update wallet and credit card details. He also pointed out some differences with the CarPlay setup. His new iPhone is Cosmic Orange and overall, most things worked correctly and it is faster/smoother. Judging by Apple's share price, the new iPhone lineup has been well received.
John inquired about the availability of physical SIM trays and eSIM costs for international travel, which David and LeRoy discussed, noting that there are now a number of eSIM international service providers.
2 - Making AI Work for You: asking it good questions, and lots more - with Leroy Lees
LeRoy gave his presentation on using ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com, emphasizing the importance of phrasing questions effectively and treating the AI as a computer rather than a person. He shared his experience with accessing and using ChatGPT, highlighting the benefits of sticking to one app before exploring others. LeRoy also demonstrated the utility of the sidebar feature for reviewing previous questions and answers, and shared a real-world example of using ChatGPT to assist an elderly client with keyboard issues on a new iMac.
He also described using ChatGPT to locate a friend's location on Find My Friends after six months of unsuccessful attempts, and to research his birth parents' background in Edmonton. LeRoy emphasized the importance of proper prompt phrasing and highlighted how ChatGPT provided quick solutions to various challenges, from finding jokes to suggesting gifts for palliative care patients. You can view LeRoy's presentation slides below.
David demonstrated how ChatGPT can create personalized birthday images, while Stephen and others noted that while ChatGPT provides a useful starting point, users should verify the information and cross-reference with other sources like Ancestry.ca or Wikipedia.org. The conversation concluded with Lynda raising a technical question about potential conflicts between Apple's built-in ChatGPT functionality and the standalone ChatGPT app. Preliminary research indicates that there can indeed be conflicts and privacy concerns, which could be a future meeting topic.
The group discussed various AI chat tools and their experiences with them, including ChatGPT, Microsoft Copilot, and Perplexity. Neil shared his experiences with Copilot's impressive coding capabilities and accuracy issues with ChatGPT.
3 - Apple's September 9th Event - group chat
The conversation then shifted to Apple's recent product announcements, including the iPhone 17 lineup, AirPods Pro 3, and new Apple Watch features. You can view a summary of the new features in the second attachment below. The group also discussed durability concerns with the new iPhone models and potential accessories for professional use https://postperspective.com/blackmagic-camera-prodock-for-iphone-17-prores-raw-to-resolve/. John recommended the Pocket Tripod, which is a credit card size, foldable tripod for smartphones https://geometrical-inc.com
Charles discussed his recent cataract surgery and the need for specialized glasses, while also showing us and sharing details about his Bengal cat, which is a rare, hypoallergenic breed. Keith joined the call briefly, mentioning he was walking home for dinner ... our first mobile participant!
John described he and his wife's upcoming expedition cruise to Antarctica with Viking including the health screening requirements, and plans for a future cruise in the Northwest Passage. The conversation ended with a brief discussion about upgrading to an iPhone 17 Pro with better camera capabilities, particularly for his trip to Antarctica.
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals
LeRoy shared his recent experience upgrading to the new iPhone 17 Pro Max https://www.apple.com/ca/iphone-17-pro/. He made the purchase while lying in bed at 8 am and picked it up the next day. He highlighted some of the improved features like a larger screen, better camera with 8x optical zoom, and the transition to eSIM-only technology. While the direct old to new phone transfer did not work, it was quite straight forward transferring data using his iCloud backup. There is a fairly easy process to update wallet and credit card details. He also pointed out some differences with the CarPlay setup. His new iPhone is Cosmic Orange and overall, most things worked correctly and it is faster/smoother. Judging by Apple's share price, the new iPhone lineup has been well received.
John inquired about the availability of physical SIM trays and eSIM costs for international travel, which David and LeRoy discussed, noting that there are now a number of eSIM international service providers.
2 - Making AI Work for You: asking it good questions, and lots more - with Leroy Lees
LeRoy gave his presentation on using ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com, emphasizing the importance of phrasing questions effectively and treating the AI as a computer rather than a person. He shared his experience with accessing and using ChatGPT, highlighting the benefits of sticking to one app before exploring others. LeRoy also demonstrated the utility of the sidebar feature for reviewing previous questions and answers, and shared a real-world example of using ChatGPT to assist an elderly client with keyboard issues on a new iMac.
He also described using ChatGPT to locate a friend's location on Find My Friends after six months of unsuccessful attempts, and to research his birth parents' background in Edmonton. LeRoy emphasized the importance of proper prompt phrasing and highlighted how ChatGPT provided quick solutions to various challenges, from finding jokes to suggesting gifts for palliative care patients. You can view LeRoy's presentation slides below.
David demonstrated how ChatGPT can create personalized birthday images, while Stephen and others noted that while ChatGPT provides a useful starting point, users should verify the information and cross-reference with other sources like Ancestry.ca or Wikipedia.org. The conversation concluded with Lynda raising a technical question about potential conflicts between Apple's built-in ChatGPT functionality and the standalone ChatGPT app. Preliminary research indicates that there can indeed be conflicts and privacy concerns, which could be a future meeting topic.
The group discussed various AI chat tools and their experiences with them, including ChatGPT, Microsoft Copilot, and Perplexity. Neil shared his experiences with Copilot's impressive coding capabilities and accuracy issues with ChatGPT.
3 - Apple's September 9th Event - group chat
The conversation then shifted to Apple's recent product announcements, including the iPhone 17 lineup, AirPods Pro 3, and new Apple Watch features. You can view a summary of the new features in the second attachment below. The group also discussed durability concerns with the new iPhone models and potential accessories for professional use https://postperspective.com/blackmagic-camera-prodock-for-iphone-17-prores-raw-to-resolve/. John recommended the Pocket Tripod, which is a credit card size, foldable tripod for smartphones https://geometrical-inc.com
#5
Buy, Sell, Swap, Give ... / Give: Inside Macintosh and oth...
Last post by Garry - July 25, 2025, 07:20:38 PMBelow is a list of books that I have which need a new home.
I consider all of these books to be in mint to near-mint condition.
I consider all of these books to be in mint to near-mint condition.
- Apple branded books
- Inside Macintosh Volumes 1 - 6
- Inside Macintosh X-Ref
- Guide to the Machintosh Family Hardware
- MacsBugs (loose sheets in a binder)
- Inside AppleTalk
- Inside AppleTalk, Second Edition
- Macintosh Designing Cards and Drivers for Macintosh II and Macintosh SE
- Motorola databooks
- M68000 User's Manual
- MC68020 User's Manual
- M68000 Family Programmer's Reference Manual
- MC68307 User's Manual
- Other books
- Macintosh Revealed Volumes 1-4
- Macintosh Programming Secrets
#6
MUGOO Meetings / 2025-09-22 MUGOO iMeeting - Ne...
Last post by AdminMan - July 06, 2025, 01:45:59 PMWe still cannot have in-person meetings at the library. So we will use Zoom.
Date: Monday September 22, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/expired
Meeting ID: expired
Passcode: expired
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 - Making AI work for you
- Asking it good questions, and lots more with Leroy Lees 7:40 - 8:30
3 - Apple's September 9th event group chat 8:30 - 9:00
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en
Date: Monday September 22, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/expired
Meeting ID: expired
Passcode: expired
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 - Making AI work for you
- Asking it good questions, and lots more with Leroy Lees 7:40 - 8:30
3 - Apple's September 9th event group chat 8:30 - 9:00
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en
#7
MUGOO Meetings / Re: 2025-06-23 MUGOO Zoom iMee...
Last post by wallykuz - June 24, 2025, 01:10:20 PM1 - News and views
The group discussed Gander Social, a new Canadian social media platform similar to Facebook but with a focus on posts and videos, which is currently in beta testing and set to launch in the fall with Arlene Dickinson's support. There was a brief discussion about old computer equipment, specifically Iomega Zip drives, and their technological advancements over time.
2 - Roundtable discussions:
A - WWDC 2025 - WorldWide Developers Conference
B - AI - Artificial Intelligence
Wally showed ...
- a Mac Rumours summary of WWDC 2025 with follow-up links
https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/wwdc/#:~:text=At%20the%20WWDC%202025%20keynote,a%20Mac%20than%20ever%20before.
- a 10-minute YouTube video from The Verge showing highlights of WWDC 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjr4iFzlLjo
- Two video segments from YouTuber Marques Brownlee about Apple's AI position and the new Spotlight incorporating some features of Raycast app https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E3tv_3D95g
AI segment ... 0:00 to 0:54
Spotlight segment ... 9:26 to 10:57
2A - WWDC and Apple OS Features Overview
Apple WWDC 2025 Key Updates ...
Wally presented a summary of Apple's WWDC 2025 announcements, highlighting significant updates to iOS, iPadOS, macOS, and other Apple platforms. He noted that the iPad is becoming more Mac-like, with new features like multiple overlapping windows and a cursor, making it a more compelling laptop alternative. Wally also discussed the new Spotlight search capabilities in macOS, which now offers more advanced productivity features similar to third-party tools like Raycast. The group discussed the timeline for the new OS releases, with developer betas available now, public betas in July, and official releases expected in September or October.
CarPlay Features and Limitations ...
The group discussed the limitations and features of CarPlay and CarPlay Ultra, noting that CarPlay Ultra, available in select models like Alfa Romeo, integrates manufacturer specifications into a unified interface, though only a few manufacturers are currently participating. John shared that CarPlay and Audi features cannot coexist, forcing a choice between the two.
Other ...
Graham mentioned the upcoming availability of Notes on the Apple Watch, which surprised him, and Stephen expressed enthusiasm for the Preview app's versatility on both Mac and iPad, highlighting its use as a default PDF viewer.
2B - AI Search Tools: Benefits and Concerns
The group discussed their experiences with ChatGPT and AI-powered search responses. Wally and LeRoy shared positive experiences using AI for technical questions and problem-solving, noting significant improvements in the quality and accuracy of responses over recent months. They emphasized the convenience of AI for quick answers, though Wally expressed some concerns about potential negative impacts.
The group discussed ChatGPT and Apple's writing tools for improving emails. Stephen shared his experience using ChatGPT to rewrite emails in a friendlier tone, highlighting its ability to transform text quickly and efficiently. The conversation touched on the potential of AI in creating business plans and the need to experiment with these tools to prepare for future advancements.
Perplexity Search Engine Review ...
Laurence discussed Perplexity, a search engine that provides detailed and referenced answers to specific questions. He praised its ability to offer accurate information with references, continuity in searches, and the option to follow up without repeating the entire search. Laurence discussed Perplexity's honesty in acknowledging uncertainties. He mentioned that it is available for free at a basic level, with a paid pro version, and is accessible on various platforms.
ChatGPT Accuracy and Follow-Ups ...
John shared his experience with ChatGPT, noting that while it provided a thorough but incorrect answer to a broad question, it acknowledged its mistake when asked follow-up questions. Neil discussed his experiences with ChatGPT, highlighting both its useful responses to questions and its inaccuracies
AI Search Engine Reliability Concerns ...
Neil expressed concerns about the accuracy of AI-generated search results, while Laurence recommended using Perplexity as an alternative search engine that provides source citations and explains uncertainty in its results. The discussion concluded with participants agreeing to experiment with different AI search tools over the summer, though some expressed skepticism about relying on AI for important information.
The group discussed Gander Social, a new Canadian social media platform similar to Facebook but with a focus on posts and videos, which is currently in beta testing and set to launch in the fall with Arlene Dickinson's support. There was a brief discussion about old computer equipment, specifically Iomega Zip drives, and their technological advancements over time.
2 - Roundtable discussions:
A - WWDC 2025 - WorldWide Developers Conference
B - AI - Artificial Intelligence
Wally showed ...
- a Mac Rumours summary of WWDC 2025 with follow-up links
https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/wwdc/#:~:text=At%20the%20WWDC%202025%20keynote,a%20Mac%20than%20ever%20before.
- a 10-minute YouTube video from The Verge showing highlights of WWDC 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjr4iFzlLjo
- Two video segments from YouTuber Marques Brownlee about Apple's AI position and the new Spotlight incorporating some features of Raycast app https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E3tv_3D95g
AI segment ... 0:00 to 0:54
Spotlight segment ... 9:26 to 10:57
2A - WWDC and Apple OS Features Overview
Apple WWDC 2025 Key Updates ...
Wally presented a summary of Apple's WWDC 2025 announcements, highlighting significant updates to iOS, iPadOS, macOS, and other Apple platforms. He noted that the iPad is becoming more Mac-like, with new features like multiple overlapping windows and a cursor, making it a more compelling laptop alternative. Wally also discussed the new Spotlight search capabilities in macOS, which now offers more advanced productivity features similar to third-party tools like Raycast. The group discussed the timeline for the new OS releases, with developer betas available now, public betas in July, and official releases expected in September or October.
CarPlay Features and Limitations ...
The group discussed the limitations and features of CarPlay and CarPlay Ultra, noting that CarPlay Ultra, available in select models like Alfa Romeo, integrates manufacturer specifications into a unified interface, though only a few manufacturers are currently participating. John shared that CarPlay and Audi features cannot coexist, forcing a choice between the two.
Other ...
Graham mentioned the upcoming availability of Notes on the Apple Watch, which surprised him, and Stephen expressed enthusiasm for the Preview app's versatility on both Mac and iPad, highlighting its use as a default PDF viewer.
2B - AI Search Tools: Benefits and Concerns
The group discussed their experiences with ChatGPT and AI-powered search responses. Wally and LeRoy shared positive experiences using AI for technical questions and problem-solving, noting significant improvements in the quality and accuracy of responses over recent months. They emphasized the convenience of AI for quick answers, though Wally expressed some concerns about potential negative impacts.
The group discussed ChatGPT and Apple's writing tools for improving emails. Stephen shared his experience using ChatGPT to rewrite emails in a friendlier tone, highlighting its ability to transform text quickly and efficiently. The conversation touched on the potential of AI in creating business plans and the need to experiment with these tools to prepare for future advancements.
Perplexity Search Engine Review ...
Laurence discussed Perplexity, a search engine that provides detailed and referenced answers to specific questions. He praised its ability to offer accurate information with references, continuity in searches, and the option to follow up without repeating the entire search. Laurence discussed Perplexity's honesty in acknowledging uncertainties. He mentioned that it is available for free at a basic level, with a paid pro version, and is accessible on various platforms.
ChatGPT Accuracy and Follow-Ups ...
John shared his experience with ChatGPT, noting that while it provided a thorough but incorrect answer to a broad question, it acknowledged its mistake when asked follow-up questions. Neil discussed his experiences with ChatGPT, highlighting both its useful responses to questions and its inaccuracies
AI Search Engine Reliability Concerns ...
Neil expressed concerns about the accuracy of AI-generated search results, while Laurence recommended using Perplexity as an alternative search engine that provides source citations and explains uncertainty in its results. The discussion concluded with participants agreeing to experiment with different AI search tools over the summer, though some expressed skepticism about relying on AI for important information.
#8
MUGOO Meetings / 2025-06-23 MUGOO Zoom iMeeting...
Last post by AdminMan - June 07, 2025, 02:57:01 PMWe still cannot have in-person meetings at the library. So we will use Zoom.
Date: Monday June 23, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/expired
Meeting ID: expired
Passcode: expired
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 Roundtable group discussions ... 7:40 - 9:00
A - What's new from Apple's WWDC held June 9-13
B - Your experiences with ChatGPT and any other
Artificial Intelligence sources
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en
Date: Monday June 23, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/expired
Meeting ID: expired
Passcode: expired
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 Roundtable group discussions ... 7:40 - 9:00
A - What's new from Apple's WWDC held June 9-13
B - Your experiences with ChatGPT and any other
Artificial Intelligence sources
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en
#9
MUGOO Meetings / Re: 2025-05-26 MUGOO Zoom iMee...
Last post by DavidR - May 27, 2025, 10:56:06 AM0 - Group chin-wag during log on
Wally welcomed Ram to his first meeting and discussed our MUGOO organizational structure. Charles joined the meeting while recovering from knee surgery and shared his experience with physiotherapy, which led to a casual conversation about joint replacements and recovery experiences.
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals
Charles highly recommended the MeteoBlue weather app https://www.meteoblue.com This was developed at University of Basel, Switzerlandand. It combines over 40 weather models and uses proprietary artificial intelligence to generate weather forecasts. You can access it using a Safari window or an iPhone app.
Peter shared information about an app called id.me that allows users to store their driver's license and passport securely on their phone. The information is encrypted and stored locally on your device, not in the cloud. Bioscan and GPS home location are used during the setup for additional security.
2 - How I Cook My Spam - with Gillian Villeneuve and Neil Herber
Gillian has been a long-time member of National Capital Freenet, a Canadian nonprofit internet service provider that offers affordable email and Internet services https://www.ncf.ca/en/ She demonstrated the use of Zimbra, highlighting its Yellow Mail feature which allows her to preview incoming emails before they are allowed through to her email client. Gillian explained how she uses the program to identify suspicious emails by examining IP addresses and website links, and showed how to manage and delete unwanted emails through the system's filtering and sorting capabilities. You can view Gillian's presentation deck in the attachment below.
Neil then went on to provide a detailed walkthrough of the Freenet platform and its features. He further demonstrated NCF's Yellow Mail service, explaining how it acts as a pre-filter for Zimbra email with the additional option of creating disposable email addresses. He showed how to create and manage aliases, including the process of getting approval for custom addresses. Participants discussed the service's spam filtering capabilities, with Neil demonstrating how even self-forwarded spam emails were correctly identified.
NCF is especially good for "throw away" email accounts and well worth the annual $12. Such disposable addresses will continue working as long as you need them.
The group then discussed email storage and management, with Charles sharing his experience in archiving important emails, though he noted a limitation where locally managed mailboxes were not always visible across different computers. Neil explained the differences between POP3 and IMAP protocols and provided guidance on managing large email archives, including saving emails as text files and using indexing software for searching.
3 - De-Confusing the Universal Serial Bus (USB) - with Wally Kuzmicz
Wally explained the different types of ports on Mac computers, focusing on USB and Thunderbolt. He clarified the differences between USB-A, USB-C, and Thunderbolt ports, as well as the various USB speeds. Wally then discussed how to connect displays, Thunderbolt devices, and USB devices to Macs, emphasizing the priority of using Thunderbolt ports for displays and high-speed devices. He advised checking the tech specs on Apple's website to confirm port types and capabilities. Wally also recommended using https://mactracker.ca to identify port types on older Mac models.
Wally then shared a short tutorial video from https://macmost.com/how-to-use-the-ports-on-your-mac-correctly.html?awt_a=2P.a&awt_l=v2z4tn&awt_m=J77NMh7_bh8I.a&nlclx, pausing along the way for certain clarifications. You can view Wally's port and cable images in the attachment below.
Neil shared an interesting finding about the asymmetry in USB-C cables, which can affect functionality when plugged in upside down. Charles raised concerns about the lack of labeling on cables, and Wally clarified that unmarked cables on modern Macs are likely Thunderbolt, while marked ones are USB-C. The group discussed the importance of investing in well-marked, high-quality cables to avoid confusion.
The meeting ended with Wally's announcement about our upcoming MUGOO annual lunch on June 17th 1:00 pm at the Royal Oak, across from Nepean Centrepointe Library.
Wally welcomed Ram to his first meeting and discussed our MUGOO organizational structure. Charles joined the meeting while recovering from knee surgery and shared his experience with physiotherapy, which led to a casual conversation about joint replacements and recovery experiences.
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals
Charles highly recommended the MeteoBlue weather app https://www.meteoblue.com This was developed at University of Basel, Switzerlandand. It combines over 40 weather models and uses proprietary artificial intelligence to generate weather forecasts. You can access it using a Safari window or an iPhone app.
Peter shared information about an app called id.me that allows users to store their driver's license and passport securely on their phone. The information is encrypted and stored locally on your device, not in the cloud. Bioscan and GPS home location are used during the setup for additional security.
2 - How I Cook My Spam - with Gillian Villeneuve and Neil Herber
Gillian has been a long-time member of National Capital Freenet, a Canadian nonprofit internet service provider that offers affordable email and Internet services https://www.ncf.ca/en/ She demonstrated the use of Zimbra, highlighting its Yellow Mail feature which allows her to preview incoming emails before they are allowed through to her email client. Gillian explained how she uses the program to identify suspicious emails by examining IP addresses and website links, and showed how to manage and delete unwanted emails through the system's filtering and sorting capabilities. You can view Gillian's presentation deck in the attachment below.
Neil then went on to provide a detailed walkthrough of the Freenet platform and its features. He further demonstrated NCF's Yellow Mail service, explaining how it acts as a pre-filter for Zimbra email with the additional option of creating disposable email addresses. He showed how to create and manage aliases, including the process of getting approval for custom addresses. Participants discussed the service's spam filtering capabilities, with Neil demonstrating how even self-forwarded spam emails were correctly identified.
NCF is especially good for "throw away" email accounts and well worth the annual $12. Such disposable addresses will continue working as long as you need them.
The group then discussed email storage and management, with Charles sharing his experience in archiving important emails, though he noted a limitation where locally managed mailboxes were not always visible across different computers. Neil explained the differences between POP3 and IMAP protocols and provided guidance on managing large email archives, including saving emails as text files and using indexing software for searching.
3 - De-Confusing the Universal Serial Bus (USB) - with Wally Kuzmicz
Wally explained the different types of ports on Mac computers, focusing on USB and Thunderbolt. He clarified the differences between USB-A, USB-C, and Thunderbolt ports, as well as the various USB speeds. Wally then discussed how to connect displays, Thunderbolt devices, and USB devices to Macs, emphasizing the priority of using Thunderbolt ports for displays and high-speed devices. He advised checking the tech specs on Apple's website to confirm port types and capabilities. Wally also recommended using https://mactracker.ca to identify port types on older Mac models.
Wally then shared a short tutorial video from https://macmost.com/how-to-use-the-ports-on-your-mac-correctly.html?awt_a=2P.a&awt_l=v2z4tn&awt_m=J77NMh7_bh8I.a&nlclx, pausing along the way for certain clarifications. You can view Wally's port and cable images in the attachment below.
Neil shared an interesting finding about the asymmetry in USB-C cables, which can affect functionality when plugged in upside down. Charles raised concerns about the lack of labeling on cables, and Wally clarified that unmarked cables on modern Macs are likely Thunderbolt, while marked ones are USB-C. The group discussed the importance of investing in well-marked, high-quality cables to avoid confusion.
The meeting ended with Wally's announcement about our upcoming MUGOO annual lunch on June 17th 1:00 pm at the Royal Oak, across from Nepean Centrepointe Library.
#10
MUGOO Meetings / 2025-05-26 MUGOO Zoom iMeeting
Last post by AdminMan - May 14, 2025, 12:21:04 PMWe still cannot have in-person meetings at the library. So we will use Zoom.
Date: Monday May 26, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
https://us02web.zoom.us/expired
Meeting ID: expired
Passcode: expired
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 - How I Cook My Spam with Gillian Villeneuve 7:40 - 8:20
3 - De-Confusing the Universal Serial Bus (USB) with Wally Kuzmicz 8:20 - 9:00
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en
Date: Monday May 26, 2025
Time: 7:30 PM ET You can join the Zoom meeting starting at 7:20.
https://us02web.zoom.us/expired
Meeting ID: expired
Passcode: expired
Although Zoom works in many browsers we STRONGLY recommend using the dedicated app on your device with the largest screen for the best experience.
You do NOT need a Zoom account to join a meeting!
If you need instructions, go here: https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/UsingZOOM
Agenda:
0 - Group chin-wag during log on 7:20 - 7:30
1 - News and Views - Members' new tech arrivals 7:30 - 7:40
2 - How I Cook My Spam with Gillian Villeneuve 7:40 - 8:20
3 - De-Confusing the Universal Serial Bus (USB) with Wally Kuzmicz 8:20 - 9:00
Unfortunately, no after meeting wings or desserts at the Royal Oak, but feel free to prepare your own snacks and share them with us on screen!
Did you miss a meeting?
Sign up for emailed meeting notices! https://mugoo.com/index.php/Main/MeetingReminders
Don't forget the Ottawa Public Library!
Even though we are unable to meet in person at the library, the OPL still offers a wealth of services you can access online. Go to https://biblioottawalibrary.ca/en