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Title: How to make My Win Xp desktop talk to my Apple blueberry clamshell iBook?
Post by: mikeygottawa on June 30, 2008, 12:50:44 AM
Recently purchased an Apple original, 300 Mhz, Blueberry Clamshell iBook in great condition!  Runs Mac OS 9.2.2.  Came  with 64 mb ram, no firewire port, 3 G. HD and CD-ROM drive, USB 1.1, Ethernet and telephone jack ports.    No OS disks, though.  It's Groovy!  I love it.  User-friendly, too!
Hoping to do word processing or photo editing on it.  My desktop internet computer runs Win XP. 
Have a few questions, please:
How can I share the internet connection from desktop to iBook?  Ethernet cable?  Hardware Router?
How do I make them talk to each other?  Can I share JPEG, RTF, TEXT files between the desktop and the iBook?  Say, I want to edit a photo  on the desktop using the iBook?  Or maybe print a text on the desktop that originated on the iBook?  Will a USB cable work for that?  I dunno.
What's a good Ottawa service shop?  A good place to buy more RAM?  Any upgrade suggestions?
Appreciate any and all tips, advice!  Many Thanks and Best Wishes, All!  Peace.
Title: Re: How to make My Win Xp desktop talk to my Apple blueberry clamshell iBook?
Post by: mikeygottawa on June 30, 2008, 08:29:14 AM
OK, so after scouring the built-in Help files, I learned that connecting computer to computer with a USB cable is not recommended.  Figured out that installing a CD burner in the iBook Might be one way to go.
Still scratching my head but I'm getting closer.  Still, I would any tips or advice.  Happy Canada Day, All!
Title: Re: How to make My Win Xp desktop talk to my Apple blueberry clamshell iBook?
Post by: mikeygottawa on June 30, 2008, 05:30:38 PM
I learned that XP needs a network box to connect the two computers.  Think I'll swap the iBook's CD Rom drive for a CD burner drive.  The wheels are turning upstairs.  Best wishes All!  Appreciate any tips, suggestions.  Happy Canada!  Peace.
Title: Re: How to make My Win Xp desktop talk to my Apple blueberry clamshell iBook?
Post by: Neil Herber on June 30, 2008, 09:02:28 PM
You should be able to connect the two directly using an ethernet "cross-over" cable without any other hardware. If your PC is new enough, the ethernet adapter on it *may* auto-detect the transmit and receive lines, allowing you to use a regular "straight through" ethernet cable.

If you have a router, hub, or switch with at least 2 ports, then just connect through it.
Title: Re: How to make My Win Xp desktop talk to my Apple blueberry clamshell iBook?
Post by: Dan Millar on June 30, 2008, 09:05:54 PM
Yup, CD sharing utilizes the most robust, secure and speedy network topology known to man - sneakernet. Yes, you walk the data, personally, to its destination. I have transferred as much as 3-400 GB in less than a few seconds when I carry a DVD from one machine to another - absolutely secure from any kind of electronic eavesdropping!

Seriously, that is a good solution. I dunno about any "magic box" to connect the two computers, a Mac and a PC can connect with just a crossover ethernet cable - no magic box required - or simply connect them to the same router(is this the magic box?). The problem is, how does OS 9 file sharing talk to XP's file shares? DAVE is one of the few s/w packages around for putting OS 9 Macs on Windows networks. But, its expensive, complicated AND flaky anyways, so...

Go with the CD idea. External burners are cheap, internals cost a mint, keep your internal. You'll need an old copy of TOAST(version 5, maybe 6 - any clues out there what the last version that works with OS 9 is?) or Dragon Burn to burn in OS 9. Use ISO960 format with the Joliet extensions to burn discs from your Mac to give to your PC - that way the filenames won't get dumbed down. Only Toast can read Joliet disks on an OS 9 Mac - no problem in XP -  so you may need an extension to enable reading those disks back into OS 9 - go here: http://www.tempel.org/joliet/ (http://www.tempel.org/joliet/) to get "Joliet Volume Access 1.4.2" - then Bob's your uncle, AND you'll be able to read Joliets on your OS 9 Mac.

See the stores section for advice on Mac stores, always use authorized Apple Service for repairs, and get your RAM wherever it costs least - but do stick with Apple-approved vendors - Shikatronics, Kingston and Crucial are three I know of...

Happy Mac'ing

Dan
Title: Re: How to make My Win Xp desktop talk to my Apple blueberry clamshell iBook?
Post by: ben schmidt on August 29, 2008, 06:00:04 PM
Quote from: mikeygottawa on June 30, 2008, 12:50:44 AM
Recently purchased an Apple original, 300 Mhz, Blueberry Clamshell iBook in great condition!  Runs Mac OS 9.2.2.  Came  with 64 mb ram, no firewire port, 3 G. HD and CD-ROM drive, USB 1.1, Ethernet and telephone jack ports.   ...[omitted]... My desktop internet computer runs Win XP. 
How can I share the internet connection from desktop to iBook?  Ethernet cable?  Hardware Router?

The simplest and most reliable way to share an internet connection is with a hardware router. If your DSL or cable modem provides an Ethernet connection to your existing WinXP PC, you would unplug it and connect it instead to a hardware router ($50 or less?), and then you would run 2 Ethernet cables from the router: one to your WinXP PC, and a 2nd to your Blueberry Clamshell.

QuoteHow do I make them talk to each other?  Can I share JPEG, RTF, TEXT files between the desktop and the iBook? 
With regard to sharing files between the WinXP PC and the OS 9 Blueberry Clamshell, the above router would provide a network path between the two computers.  Then all you'd need would be to select a network protocol they both could speak. Preferably one which did not requiring buying 3rd-party software. [I'm assuming that a man trying to use a 0.3GHz/0.064GB computer in 2008 is clearly a man who's interested in exploring low-cost routes first! <gr>]

If you go with the TCP/IP protocol, which you would already have configured on each to allow web browsing, then one option would be to use the FTP protocol to transfer files between the two computers. At minimum one of the two computer would need to be running an FTP server, while the other need only run an FTP client. 

I'm not sure if WinXP comes with a built-in FTP server, but there are definitely lots of freeware FTP clients. On the Mac side, I don't remember if OS9 included a built-in FTP server, but you can download a free OS 9 FTP server:

   http://files.stairways.com/other/netpresenz.pdf
   http://files.stairways.com/other/netpresenz-41.zip

Alternatively, if you have both your WinXP and OS9 BlueBerry on The Internet courtesy of the router above, you could get a free mail account and use web-browsers to transfer files from one computer to another.

...b