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Title: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Cyril on October 18, 2007, 08:12:03 PM
I am looking at changing the failing hard drive on my 1st gen eMac (G4 700Mhz).
I think I have the actual disassembly covered (I just changed the DVD player this morning), but I was wondering:
How do you guys go about transfering data from the old to the new drive?  I can't find a firewire enclosure for IDE/ATA drives anywhere...
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Neil Herber on October 18, 2007, 11:57:31 PM
I would get a USB 2.0 enclosure - it is just as fast as firewire 400 (as long as your Mac has USB 2.0 ports).

Another alternative is this device:
http://www.pccyber.com/scrMain.asp?v=Product&i=CA-VANTEC-CB-ISATAU2

Check with LeRoy Lees cllees@mac.com. He had similar units at a better price last time I was there.
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Dan Millar on October 19, 2007, 10:05:49 AM
Hi Guys,

We sell the same product for about $25 - techie deal of the century, these devices are in every techs toolbox they are SO handy.
Computer Concepts in Kanata - we have them in stock.

Dan
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: z-mac on October 19, 2007, 11:08:59 AM
Quote from: Cyril on October 18, 2007, 08:12:03 PM
I can't find a firewire enclosure for IDE/ATA drives anywhere...

http://www.directron.com/firewireenclos.html
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Dan Millar on October 19, 2007, 02:45:59 PM
Hey no need to mail order - we have the enclosures in store as well - 2.5, 3.5, USB, Firewire or SATA - you choose!
Computer Concepts - 613-836-4504 - ask for Doug!

Dan
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Cyril on October 19, 2007, 03:11:40 PM
Quote from: Neil Herber on October 18, 2007, 11:57:31 PM
I would get a USB 2.0 enclosure

Thanks Neil.
Unfortunately the 1st gen eMac is USB1.1 only...  and I can't imagine transfering 30+ Gb over USB1.1...
I so wish there was at least one USB2 port on these machines!
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Cyril on October 19, 2007, 03:30:46 PM
Thanks Dan.  I'll definitely call Doug or drop by.

I must say I can't find my way around your website though -- what brand enclosures do you carry? (Hope it's not against forum rules to discuss that)

Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Dan Millar on October 19, 2007, 04:38:03 PM
Not everything in the store is on the website, but if you click on the USB badge - you'll see the USB-IDE converter there. The drive enclosures aren't listed, but you may call Doug first and he'll help you out. For the most part they are from A-Byte - a generic OEM, the main thing to look for is the controller chip - Oxford, Initio or Prolific are all good names.

Hope we're not breaking any forum rules!

Dan
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: AdminMan on October 19, 2007, 05:18:14 PM
No rules broken that I can think of!
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Cyril on October 19, 2007, 10:42:06 PM
Excellent.
Some forums can get pretty paranoid about discussing specific shops or commercial interests -- glad this is not the case here.

Btw, directron seem to have pretty good prices (thanks z) but I'd rather buy from a real shop if I can.

Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: z-mac on October 19, 2007, 11:03:26 PM
Quote from: Cyril on October 19, 2007, 10:42:06 PM
Btw, directron seem to have pretty good prices (thanks z) but I'd rather buy from a real shop if I can.

I just wanted to show you that you can find Firewire enclosures.

I try to support local business but I've found things at Directron that I couldn't find locally and the service has been very good. I don't know anything about Dan's shop and cannot recommend it personally.
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: MacMoore on October 20, 2007, 09:58:26 AM
Check your MUGOO personnal messages.
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Cyril on February 29, 2008, 09:49:58 AM
BTW I should tank everybody who provided replies and info in this thread.  I ended up getting a 250Gb Seagate drive and install was pretty straightforward, if a bit long (especially since I had to open it again to get the Airport antenna back).

Now I just have to figure out what I can do with all that extra storage space...

Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Dan Millar on February 29, 2008, 03:58:57 PM
Glad to here of your ultimate success! Did you ever get the data transferred?

Dan
Title: Re: Changing eMac hard drive
Post by: Cyril on February 29, 2008, 11:01:38 PM
I cloned the internal HD onto the new one using a FW enclosure (seems to use Prolific chipset), swapped the drives and when I restarted I had essentially the same system, with 210 extra Gb.

While internal, the 40Gb disk could not be repaired (due to its SMART status) but once I placed it in the enclosure I could verify and repair it so it looks like I have an extra 40Gb external.